I saw a Thought Emporium video where spider silk was produced by genetically modifying yeast. I have also read about companies making vanillin (vanilla flavour) using this technique.

I am curious to know if plant derivatives like saffron (or its flavour), rubber, or even substances like quinine, tetrahydrocannabinol and cocaine, can also be produced by this same technique. From the information I have found, it seems that some plant derivatives are being manufactured in genetic engineered micro-organisms, but most are not.

Some of these derivatives are very expensive, so I would imagine such techniques could be used to mass-produce them more cheaply. If so, what is stopping industry from doing it? If not, what is the problem?

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    $\begingroup$ @tyersome While this question is high-level, I think it's entirely reasonable and readily answerable. $\endgroup$
    – jakebeal
    Apr 10 at 18:35
  • $\begingroup$ Are you asking what we can theoretically do or what is we can currently capable of? $\endgroup$
    – John
    Apr 11 at 5:12
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    $\begingroup$ @tyersome I have very little knowledge of advanced biology and I come from an electrical engineering background. So to 'show an attempt' or to research would mean reading all the basic biology books, which defeats the purpose of having a site like stackexchange. $\endgroup$ Apr 11 at 13:55
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    $\begingroup$ @electronikor You don't need an advanced degree in biology to show you have researched a question before asking it here. The model here is to help people who have shown prior effort at understanding a relevant question - the purpose of SE.biology isn't to spoon-feed people who don't fancy spending time researching a question for themselves. $\endgroup$
    – user438383
    Apr 11 at 14:09
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    $\begingroup$ @electronikor if you've done your prior research then that's great - just say what you did in the original question (i.e. - I read these papers / articles / asked these people / did whatever and still couldn't find the answer). You don't have to write a whole essay detailing everything you did, but just show enough to signal to the community that you have spent some time trying to find an answer before posting and you'll find people here are very receptive. $\endgroup$
    – user438383
    Apr 11 at 14:42

General Considerations

The question asks specifically why certain plant products are not produced commercially in genetically modified micro-organisms. There are some general reasons, illustrated in some of the examples mentioned:

  • The product is actually a complex mixture, rather than a single compound. This is the case for saffron, preparations of which contain protein, fat, fibre, sugars and gums, in addition to the the bioactive components — thought to be crocin, crocetin, picrocrocin and safranal (see this review).
  • It is much easier and cheaper to obtain the product by growing the plant. Although saffron is expensive because it is obtained by hand from crocus blossoms, other plant products do not have this problem, e.g. cotton, mentioned in another answer.
  • The overall market may not justify the effort. Ignoring other considerations the worldwide consumption of saffron, for example, is small, whereas that for vanillin is huge.
  • Highly developed chemical production methods may already exist. This is the case for rubber, the chemical production of varieties of which was stimulated by the development of tyred vehicles, and subsequently by war-time demands. Natural rubber is actually a mixed polymer, and specific polymers have been used to develop types of synthetic rubber with individual desirable properties.

Production of Secondary Metabolites

The question mentions “quinine, tetrahydrocannabinol and cocaine” — specific secondary metabolites of plant metabolism which may be of value in medicine, but the complex structure of which renders them difficult to synthesize chemically, much less on a commercial scale. This seems the most pertinent area to consider, especially as the question mentions the successful production in bacteria of another secondary metabolite, vanillin.

I shall take a single example of the successful synthesis in yeast of a pair of secondary metabolites — tropane alkaloids — hyoscyamine and scopolamine. These two compounds (hyoscyamine is shown) have much more complex structures than vanillin:

Structures of secondary metabolites

This is reflected in the fact that their synthesis entails 26 enzymes, compared to the 15 use in the engineered synthesis of vanillin. The synthesis of these more complex secondary metabolites illustrates some problems encountered in the production of such compounds from plant genes cloned into micro-organisms not encountered with vanillin, and not fully covered in other answers thus far:

  • Identifying the genes for all the enzymes involved in a uncommon biosynthetic pathway
  • Modularizating the pathway between different organelles to mimic the separation that occurs in plants
  • Maintaining concentrations of precursors and intermediates that might be removed by the yeast cell’s own metabolism

The example to be described was published in an article in Nature in 2020 by Srinivasan and Smolke, and reports the synthesis of the medicinal alkaloids hyoscyamine and scopolamine starting from simple sugars and amino acids. These compounds occurs in plants of the families nightshade (Solanaceae), coca (Erythroxylaceae) and bindweed (Convolvulaceae), and currently they are produced commercially by extraction from crops grown in tropical and sub-tropical countries.

Identifying the Genes

In many biosynthetic pathways the genes responsible for individual steps can be identified by homology of the predicted protein products to those of known genes. In addition, the genes for biosynthetic pathways are often clustered. However, plants which produce useful products may be relatively obscure and their genomes poorly characterized. In the case of the synthesis of hyoscyamine in the nightshades, Solanaceae, the enzyme responsible for catalysing the final step of the 26 step pathway was unknown. Srinivasan and Smolke had to identify candidate genes from gene-expression patterns under different conditions and then, for the 12 candidates identified, express their gene products and assay for the required hyoscyamine dehydrogenase that catalyses this step.

Modularizing the Pathway

In plants the synthetic pathway does not take place in a single location, but is compartmented between different organelles and, indeed, different tissues. The latter is, of course, not possible in yeast, but was mimicked by directing the products of these 26 genes to six different subcellular locations by engineering appropriate targeting signals onto them. These were the cytosolic fluid, the mitochondrion, the peroxisome, the vacuole, the endoplasmic reticulum, and the vacuolar membranes. This is one reason why yeast rather than bacteria (which lack subcellular organelles) were used in this work.

Modularization of alkaloid production in yeast

The purpose of this is explained in a Nature News & Views piece from which the diagram above is taken:

“Subcellular compartmentalization of enzymes can improve product biosynthesis by enabling proper enzymatic activity and isolating metabolic intermediates to reduce their toxicity and loss to competing pathways. By restricting space, compartmentalization also increases local interactions between the enzymes and their targets. …so each step can be separately optimized to maximize productivity.”

Maintaining concentrations of precursors and intermediates

Expression (in fact over-expression) of the enzymes of a pathway is not enough to ensure adequate production of the end-product. The precursors for the pathway (here glucose and phenylalanine) must be continually available at a suitable concentration, and reactions which consume key intermediates must be supressed. To this end eight other genes were disrupted in the work in question.


The example described is a major tour de force, showing the power of recombinant molecular genetics to express genes in micro-organisms for production of secondary metabolites. Possible it is, but routine it certainly is not. In addition to overcoming the types of problems described, there remains the task of obtaining an efficiency of production that it commercially viable. The authors of this work write:

“Process improvements to increase productivities from titres reported here (around 30 to 80 μg per litre)… to commercial production (approximately 5 g per litre)…we anticipate would take 1–2 years of focused effort by a professional team.”


In principle, any biological product should be able to be developed through microbial synthesis, with the appropriate choice of chassis. Indeed, this was the goal of the DARPA "1000 Molecules" program, which did indeed demonstrate it was possible to rapidly engineer new pathways for production of new biomolecules.

In practice, however, some products are far more difficult to achieve than others. A (very) rough sorting from easiest to hardest:

  • Small-molecule chemicals that are "near" to an existing metabolite already being produced by the organism, requiring only small number of modifications to the organism.
  • Proteins, polymers, and small molecules requiring more extensive or difficult synthesis
  • Materials with a homogeneous structure
  • Materials with a highly heterogeneous structure

Basically, the more you have to manipulate the cells, the harder it is, and if you need the cells to coordinate with each other to make a material it gets much harder yet. Even some simple everyday materials, such as cotton, are actually fantastically complex and would be extremely difficult to synthetically generate, since even a single cotton fiber has a carefully controlled multilayer structure far larger than any microbe.

Finally, just because something can be produced doesn't mean it will be produced efficiently. Getting from a proof-of-principle to something that operated effectively at industrial scale is a massive challenge, and while this is likely to become easier in the future we just aren't there yet. Something to keep an eye on, however, is BioMADE, a major government funded venture just kicking off with the aim of making such production much more feasible.

In short: in the near term, expect to see mostly high-value products with relatively simple routes to synthesis, but over the long term a much broader range of materials can in principle be produced.

  • $\begingroup$ Thanks a lot.Its a very lucid answer. I was mainly awestruck by The Thought Emporium's video on making spider silk with yeast. I thought if something that is produced by a complex organism like a spider can be made by yeast modification. Then why not something the ester(s) that gives saffron its fragrance? $\endgroup$ Apr 11 at 14:05
  • $\begingroup$ @electronikor It's a good thought; it just happens that some things, like silk, happen to be much more accessible than others due to the nature of the substance being fabricated. $\endgroup$
    – jakebeal
    Apr 11 at 14:31
  • $\begingroup$ @electronikor — saffron is not a good example as it is a mixture of substances, the bioactive components of which are thought to be crocin, crocetin, picrocrocin and safranal, although the preparations used contain protein, fat, fibre, sugars and gums. The synthesis of the bioactive components is hardly likely to be the limiting factor in the lack of a replacement for preparation of saffron from flowers. $\endgroup$
    – David
    Apr 20 at 12:07

Not all can be produced.

Getting the correct glycosylation on proteins hasn't been systematically worked out. For example, to make human-compatible antibodies.

Many of the proteins are modified by multiple enzymes after production - this could require massive amounts of research to replicate.

Some biological products are just unknown mixtures.

  • $\begingroup$ Is glycosylation an issue for any current plant products? $\endgroup$
    – jakebeal
    Apr 11 at 9:50
  • $\begingroup$ @jakebeal — the compartmentalization of the steps of secondary metabolism in the example I consider in my answer suggests it, or some other post-translational modification, might be, but I have not researched the details. The case of human-compatible antibodies is, of course, irrelevant to the question which asks about products of plant metabolism. $\endgroup$
    – David
    Apr 20 at 11:39

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