I'm trying to label a protein with fluorescent dye (TMR succinimidyl ester), but having trouble getting the protocol to work.

The protein seems to be stable in distilled water at a the recommended concentration of about 2mg/ml (determined by OD280 with an absorption coefficient calculated from its sequence).

However, the protocol calls for the addition of 1:10 1M sodium bicarbonate to raise the pH to ~8.5. When I perform this step the solution immediately turns cloudy. I have also encountered this precipitation problem when dialyzing against PBS.

What steps can I take to get around this? I assume a lower concentration of protein might prevent precipitation, but I have read that the labeling reaction becomes very inefficient below 1mg/ml.

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    $\begingroup$ What is the pI of the protein? If you get near that one you'll usually precipitate the protein. $\endgroup$ – Mad Scientist Sep 10 '12 at 18:22
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks - literature says pI can range between 7.1 and 7.4, so this is probably the issue. $\endgroup$ – so12311 Sep 10 '12 at 18:46
  • $\begingroup$ Is there a standard technique to get around this? I guess I could dilute a bunch, adjust pH then reconcentrate? Or would I be better off just looking for another labeling chemistry? $\endgroup$ – so12311 Sep 10 '12 at 21:43
  • $\begingroup$ There are a lot of possibilities here - i) Depends on your protein, what is it? ii) You should be using molar concentrations for everything, pls make the conversions. $\endgroup$ – gent Oct 23 '13 at 2:03
  • $\begingroup$ that sounds like a good thing to try. also changing salt concentration , mono and di cations can help. $\endgroup$ – shigeta Oct 23 '13 at 2:14

Alas, the great problems with protein formulation. I assume that the labeling chemistry forces you to use the 8.5 pH. (I don't think this is necessarily true since succinimidyl chemistry does work at pH=7.2 and the NHS ester is fairly unstable above pH=8.6)

We usually tackle this problem entirely by brute force ie. testing multiple buffer condition with different bases and different salt concentrations. First attempt would be to try out all of the Good's Buffers notablely HEPES, TRIS, MOPS, Tricine, Maybe you should look at both zwitterionic buffers and non-zwitterionic buffers. In your case, the succinimidyl is vunerable to primary amines so avoid things like Tris/Glycine.

The second thing to test would be various salt concentrations. Since you're already dumping in Sodium Bicarb, NaCl should be great. Unfortunately, this is where things get tricky since it is hard to know if your protein precipitates at low salt or high. A test from 20 mM, 50 mM, 100 mM, 150 mM, 200 mM, 500 mM should cover most of the interesting regimes.

Alternatively the sudden change in the ionic environment around your protein may be causing it to precipitate. You probably should dialyze or purified your protein in PBS to allow it to refold appropriately.


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