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I will be moving across the country in the coming weeks, and I have realised that I will likely have leftover perishable food in my apartment before I leave and I was thinking of trying to prepare some of it the night before I leave to bring with me. The trip will take me four days, and I was going to cook (extra thoroughly) hardboiled eggs, pork, bacon and sausages. I might even add some salt or something. And keep all of my packaging as sanitary as possible, eg. straight from pan/pot to sterile ziplock.

The eggs I'm unsure of because of the protective outer layer that is chemically removed during processing. The pork and bacon, I feel like they will be alright if they're eaten first. And I'm not too worried about the sausages because they've been processed and cooked.

I think a visual and olfactory test of the foods before I eat them would be wise - especially if nearing day 4. But, realistically, if I keep the food out of the sun covered up it will probably stay safe to eat, right? Or is this a bad idea?

I think that the food would definitely be safe to eat up until the end of the second day. But, what about any longer than that? How did people back in the old days travel with food?

Edit: Just to clarify my question. I am not asking about whether or not my apartment is sterile. And I'm not asking about whether or not bacteria can multiply. I'm very well aware of these answers.

I'm looking for a realistic estimate on food longevity - not the food-standards enforced onto food manufacturers or restaurants by the FDA/Health Canada.

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closed as off-topic by AliceD, David, Bryan Krause, James, another 'Homo sapien' Apr 1 '17 at 6:50

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    $\begingroup$ I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because better suited for Health.SE imo $\endgroup$ – AliceD Mar 31 '17 at 10:00
  • $\begingroup$ @AliceD Is Health.SE for food science? I figured since food scientists rely heavily on microbiology this would be the ideal place for answers. $\endgroup$ – Bob Mar 31 '17 at 10:07
  • $\begingroup$ I think this is a biological science question. Food science, but still science. $\endgroup$ – akaDrHouse Mar 31 '17 at 16:49
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The biggest factor in whether bacteria can grow in food is water bio-availability. Most non-sterile methods of preserving food (note that canning IS sterile) utilize this fact. Over salting while curing, adding lots of sugar, and dehydrating (or freeze-drying) all either remove water or remove the ability of the bacteria to utilize the water and hence grow in that medium.

This is the biggest reason that a hamburger from McDonalds can seem to petrify without devolving into an ugly mess. If the burger and bun and condiments dry out, bacteria can't grow on it. Put that same burger in a ziplock bag with a few drops of water and you will have the nastiest mess possible in a few days.

Honey and jams can remain at room temperature for months or years, even after opening despite being "watery", and this is because there is so much sugar in the solution, that all water tightly bound to the sugar molecules, leaving none for the bacteria to use (Note that some yeasts still can). Similarly, because of lack of water, crackers last for years, while bread spoils.

For your question with eggs and bacon, unless it was a hard-boiled egg that was cooked twice as long to ensure pasteurization throughout the yolk and you left the shell on, I wouldn't risk it after a couple of hours. Bacon, once cooked, very little water activity. Fat doesn't count for bacteria propagation, they need water. I take cooked bacon on camping trips all the time. I also take sharp cheeses with me and they are good for days.

Your other option is cooking beans (with seasoning) or something and dehydrating them in the oven on a cookie sheet before you go. Then you just need to add hot water. I do this for camping as well.

Edit: I didn't mention that high salt solutions (see pickling) function outside this paradigm somewhat, in that you are creating such an isotonic concentration in which bacteria membranes lyse. I also didn't mention methods of pickling like kimchee and sauerkraut that use salt to positively select for species of bacteria (that aren't pathogenic to us) that can tolerate that salt concentration (mainly lactobacillus) as well as some yeasts.

Edit2: With a Source about water activity

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How did people back in the old days travel with food?

Keeping said food alive until needed. Salting. Curing with smoke. Drying.Canned food. Buying it on the road.

Bacon and sausages. Have a lot of preservative in them (salt). So if you fry them, it will keep for a few days. Keep the oil on to stop exposure to air. Boiling on the other hand will remove said preservative, reducing your food shelf life.

Hard-boiled eggs.. so long as the shell remains intact..it will last the day and very likely last day 2.

The food listed would almost certainly last 2 days if kept in an air tight zip lock and kept in a cool place.

Day3 and Day4? It depends on the ambient temperature. If it is below 10 Celsius. My guess is that the food will last till day 3. Probably till day 4.

However if it is above 20C, I don't know. My guess is that the food will be going bad.

Now... you have to realize that you are risking food poisoning (day3-day4). And this is the 2010s not the 1850s. You are not traveling the Oregon trail by wagon. Food is available everywhere.

So my recommendation, well if you want to boiled eggs and sausages. Sure, eat them on day 1 (and maybe day2, breakfast). But for day2, day 3 and 4, go out and buy some food. Moving cross country is an experience in itself. Experience the food from all the small towns that you pass through. These are parts of the country that you would rarely if ever visit.

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Your apartment isn't sterile, and cooking kills many but not all bacteria - cooked food isn't sterile either, no matter how thoroughly cooked. No matter how well you pack things, they will have bacteria on them. Without refrigeration, that bacteria will multiply and may make food unsafe, or at minimum unpleasant to eat. Also, some forms of food decay aren't because of bacteria, but due to chemical changes in the food itself - protective layers won't prevent these types of spoilage.

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  • $\begingroup$ Please note the use of the word: sanitary $\endgroup$ – Bob Mar 31 '17 at 1:01
  • $\begingroup$ Also note: protective layer removed $\endgroup$ – Bob Mar 31 '17 at 1:02
  • $\begingroup$ @Bob Sanitary isn't the same as sterile. There are bacteria floating all around the air around you all the time. Sterile devices (for example, for surgical procedures) are produced in special facilities and use chemical processes to ensure sterility. Cooking food is usually enough to kill bacteria that are present in quantities that could be harmful, but if you leave that food at room or elevated temperature, it is going to grow. You might not like this advice but please don't dismiss it. $\endgroup$ – Bryan Krause Mar 31 '17 at 1:09
  • $\begingroup$ I am aware. Please refer to my edited question. $\endgroup$ – Bob Mar 31 '17 at 1:10
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    $\begingroup$ I'm going to take issue with how you worded your response, "cooked food isn't sterile either, no matter how thoroughly cooked". This is not true, else canned goods would not be good for years. The issue is that, absence of a sterile environment, he can't get it from a covered pot into a container and it still remain sterile. $\endgroup$ – akaDrHouse Mar 31 '17 at 16:23

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